Aug. 11, 2025
Ep. 7: Trumpet, Theology and Tour Vans: A No Treaty Conversation
In this powerful and laugh-out-loud episode of Deformed Theology, we sit down with Danny and Greg from the up-and-coming Christian metalcore band, No Treaty—the same band behind the viral track “Trumpet.” With authenticity, humility, and plenty of sarcasm, the guys dive deep into what makes No Treaty tick, their musical process, and the theological heartbeat behind their lyrics.
Despite being spread across multiple states, No Treaty is redefining what it means to be a band in a post-COVID, remote-working era. From dropbox folders to group chats, they break down the grind of writing and producing hard-hitting, Christ-exalting metal when you’re not in the same room—let alone the same state.
We talk with Danny and Greg about the unlikely rise of their song “Trumpet,” which, depending on who you ask, is either the “worst song ever” or an anthem for the rapture. The band’s diversity in denominational background—from Calvary Chapel roots to Reformed theology—sparks a rich and grace-filled discussion on eschatology, unity in Christ, and finding common ground amidst theological differences.
Also in the mix:
Behind-the-scenes stories of chaotic video shoots and collapsing band members
The role of producer Ryan Leitru and how loving but honest critique sharpens their sound
How lyrics are more than just rhymes—they're journal entries of sanctification, conviction, and testimony
Why metalcore can be a joyful noise unto the Lord
The spiritual importance of sound doctrine, humility, and discipleship in today’s music scene
In classic Deformed Theology fashion, we end with a sobering but necessary reflection: what’s deforming how the church today sees God, His Word, and His people? Danny opens up about the dangers of poor theology, ego-driven ministry, and the subtle temptation to make movements or subcultures the message instead of Jesus. From his own experience in straight-edge culture to his return to gospel-centered clarity, this episode isn’t just music talk—it’s ministry talk.
This is more than just a podcast about a band—it’s a reminder of what happens when sound doctrine, musical talent, and genuine community meet at the cross.
Whether you're a metalhead, a theology nerd, or just here for a good story, this episode delivers.
Despite being spread across multiple states, No Treaty is redefining what it means to be a band in a post-COVID, remote-working era. From dropbox folders to group chats, they break down the grind of writing and producing hard-hitting, Christ-exalting metal when you’re not in the same room—let alone the same state.
We talk with Danny and Greg about the unlikely rise of their song “Trumpet,” which, depending on who you ask, is either the “worst song ever” or an anthem for the rapture. The band’s diversity in denominational background—from Calvary Chapel roots to Reformed theology—sparks a rich and grace-filled discussion on eschatology, unity in Christ, and finding common ground amidst theological differences.
Also in the mix:
Behind-the-scenes stories of chaotic video shoots and collapsing band members
The role of producer Ryan Leitru and how loving but honest critique sharpens their sound
How lyrics are more than just rhymes—they're journal entries of sanctification, conviction, and testimony
Why metalcore can be a joyful noise unto the Lord
The spiritual importance of sound doctrine, humility, and discipleship in today’s music scene
In classic Deformed Theology fashion, we end with a sobering but necessary reflection: what’s deforming how the church today sees God, His Word, and His people? Danny opens up about the dangers of poor theology, ego-driven ministry, and the subtle temptation to make movements or subcultures the message instead of Jesus. From his own experience in straight-edge culture to his return to gospel-centered clarity, this episode isn’t just music talk—it’s ministry talk.
This is more than just a podcast about a band—it’s a reminder of what happens when sound doctrine, musical talent, and genuine community meet at the cross.
Whether you're a metalhead, a theology nerd, or just here for a good story, this episode delivers.
